{"id":5027,"date":"2012-02-29T00:59:41","date_gmt":"2012-02-29T07:59:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mmusicmag.com\/m\/?p=5027"},"modified":"2012-02-29T00:59:41","modified_gmt":"2012-02-29T07:59:41","slug":"lou-reed-and-metallica","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mmusicmag.com\/m\/2012\/02\/lou-reed-and-metallica\/","title":{"rendered":"LOU REED AND METALLICA"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-5028\" title=\"LOU-REED-AND-METALLICA-Nov-2011\" src=\"https:\/\/mmusicmag.com\/m\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/LOU-REED-AND-METALLICA-Nov-2011.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"660\" height=\"440\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mmusicmag.com\/m\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/LOU-REED-AND-METALLICA-Nov-2011.jpg 660w, https:\/\/mmusicmag.com\/m\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/LOU-REED-AND-METALLICA-Nov-2011-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 660px) 100vw, 660px\" \/>LOU REED AND METALLICA<\/strong><\/h1>\n<p><strong>Two giants of rock \u2019n\u2019 roll team for a controversial collaboration<\/strong><\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Lou Reed is the first to admit that <em>Lulu<\/em>, his collaborative concept album with Metallica, is \u201cnot a normal recording by any stretch.\u201d First there is the very idea of the pairing, which left many wondering where the legendary Velvet Underground founder and the iconic heavy metal band would find common ground. Then there\u2019s the subject matter: <em>Lulu<\/em> is based on a pair of century-old plays about the rise and fall of an abused<em> femme fatale<\/em> who ends up selling her body before ultimately falling prey to Jack the Ripper. Originally written by German playwright Frank Wedekind, the \u201cLulu\u201d tales have been reinterpreted over the years in formats ranging from opera to film.<\/p>\n<p>The idea for these two seemingly disparate entities to join forces came about after Metallica backed Reed on the Velvets\u2019 \u201cSweet Jane\u201d two years ago at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame\u2019s 25th anniversary bash, held in Reed\u2019s native New York City. The initial plan was to remake some overlooked songs from Reed\u2019s back catalog. Then it occurred to Reed that the anger and darkness of the \u201cLulu\u201d story\u2014which he has also recently adapted into a stage version with playwright Robert Wilson\u2014was ideally suited to the bone-crushing roar produced by his new friends from the West Coast. \u201cI thought it would be amazing to have that kind of muscle in back of the whole thing, and really give it the power it deserved,\u201d he says. The members of Metallica\u2014singer and guitarist James Hetfield, lead guitarist Kirk Hammett, bass player Robert Trujillo and drummer Lars Ulrich\u2014quickly agreed. After just 10 days in the band\u2019s San Rafael, Calif., studio with co-producers Hal Willner and Greg Fidelman, <em>Lulu<\/em> was complete.<\/p>\n<p>Critical consensus has been sharply divided on the merits of the results. Some have gleefully torn into it with knives sharpened, while others warn that Reed\u2019s foresight has proven correct before: Now-classic Reed albums like <em>Berlin<\/em> and <em>The Blue Mask<\/em> were pilloried upon their release. In any event, says Reed, \u201cWe did this because we wanted to do this. No one\u00a0asked us to do this.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>How was working with Metallica?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It was all instinctual. I\u2019d sent it to Lars and James to see if they were even game for it. They loved the idea, and we got together and just tore through it. Nobody thought about anything. It was just a great opportunity to play together. I had a certain sound in my head that I wanted to try to get, and I got it. The way we did this is that if everybody didn\u2019t agree, we didn\u2019t do it. It wasn\u2019t majority rules\u2014it was all together or nothing. We essentially saw everything the same way. We were all on the same rocket ship. And we funded it, so there was no one to say, \u201cYou can\u2019t do that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>What was the studio like?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It was Metallica\u2019s studio\u2014but if I had the opportunity to set up a studio in New York I would do what they did, which is to have tons of leakage, everybody playing at the same time. Everybody can see each other. The vocal is not in a booth. It\u2019s live, put it that way. People have gotten into the habit of putting an amp in one room and the vocalist in another room and blah, blah, blah. This is the opposite.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Doesn\u2019t that present audio problems?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>You need a certain kind of engineer, because some engineers are really obsessed with that. They\u2019ll say to you, \u201cNow your voice has a guitar on it and I can\u2019t make that go away.\u201d But we were working with someone [Fidelman] who is used to what we wanted. I didn\u2019t mind that the vocal was not pristine. When you start doing that, it turns into one of these incredibly clean digital records. This is singing with the band, live.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Was there much improvisation?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>That is what we did: just go where it goes. The band was very well prepared. They had listened and gone over the lyrics. They had things to say, like, \u201cWhat do you think of this?\u201d \u201cWhat do you think of that?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Did they push you into new turf?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>They\u2019re into heavy metal, I\u2019m into heavy guitar, so it was no big stretch. They were so ready to go, it was thrilling. It\u2019s like someone gave you a Ferrari for free.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>What was Hal Willner\u2019s role?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>He has an encyclopedic knowledge of everything, especially music. He has a great set of ears to hear when something is working or not, and great ideas about ways to blend things. He\u2019s a\u00a0producer\u2014that\u2019s what they do.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>What drew you to the original German source material?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019d done an album about Edgar Allen Poe [<em>The Raven<\/em>, 2003], and a good part of that was the fascination with the psychology of it. The \u201cLulu\u201d story has been around forever, in various forms through the [1930s] Alban Berg operas, through [the 1929 German film] <em>Pandora\u2019s Box<\/em> with Louise Brooks, right into the latest version, which is Robert Wilson\u2019s play. There are certain ways of looking at things that are in that basic story. It was a lot of fun for me to get into writing for the different characters.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>What is the story?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s about a woman who, in those days, had to be killed because she is\u2014quote-unquote\u2014a \u201cbad girl.\u201d If she were a man, it wouldn\u2019t end with Jack the Ripper. And if it were today, you might not have to have her killed off at the end at all. But this story is from decades ago, and that\u2019s what happened to women who crossed that line [in fiction] at the time. It\u2019s such a basic plot\u00a0that there\u2019s nothing to adapt.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Some are shocked by that plot.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>People are shocked? They\u2019re not shocked. These days there\u2019s not one movie that starts off without a woman getting decapitated\u2014the difference is that they\u2019re bad movies written by hacks. This is a classic story and it\u2019s written by me. I don\u2019t have to shock anybody. You\u2019re talking about people with the\u00a0IQ of a saltshaker.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Any plans to tour <em>Lulu<\/em> with Metallica?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t know. It\u2019s a very intense physical album to perform.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Why choose the armless mannequin design for the cover?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>[Album art designer] David Turner came up with some ideas after hearing what we were doing. One of them was a picture of this mannequin from a German museum. We all took one look and said, \u201cThat\u2019s Lulu.\u201d We took off from there. To prove that the proportions were correct, they found a model with the same measurements as the mannequin at the top\u2014and then the bottom half in every single one of those photos is the real model. No one knows who made the mannequin. It\u2019s plaster and wax and just insanely striking.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013Jeff Tamarkin<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>LOU REED AND METALLICA Two giants of rock \u2019n\u2019 roll team for a controversial collaboration Lou Reed is the first to admit that Lulu, his collaborative concept album with Metallica, is \u201cnot a normal recording by any stretch.\u201d First there is the very idea of the pairing, which left many wondering where the legendary Velvet [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[7],"tags":[3145,2864,970],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mmusicmag.com\/m\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5027"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mmusicmag.com\/m\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mmusicmag.com\/m\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mmusicmag.com\/m\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mmusicmag.com\/m\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5027"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/mmusicmag.com\/m\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5027\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5029,"href":"https:\/\/mmusicmag.com\/m\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5027\/revisions\/5029"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mmusicmag.com\/m\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5027"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mmusicmag.com\/m\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5027"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mmusicmag.com\/m\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5027"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}