{"id":3178,"date":"2011-08-09T00:59:01","date_gmt":"2011-08-09T07:59:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mmusicmag.com\/m\/?p=3178"},"modified":"2011-08-09T01:00:14","modified_gmt":"2011-08-09T08:00:14","slug":"nick-cave","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mmusicmag.com\/m\/2011\/08\/nick-cave\/","title":{"rendered":"NICK CAVE"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"NICK<\/h1>\n

NICK CAVE<\/h1>\n

An alt-rock icon explores sex, death, violence and love with Grinderman<\/strong><\/h2>\n

When Grinderman debuted in 2007 with its self-titled album, some might have surmised that the project\u2014which featured four core members of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds\u2014was little more than a particularly inspired vacation from the parent group. The release of Grinderman 2<\/em> puts any such notion to rest. For Cave, guitarist Warren Ellis, bass player Martyn Casey and drummer Jim Sclavunos, Grinderman is a distinct entity with its own identity. We spoke with Cave and Sclavunos about the inner\u00a0workings of Grinderman.<\/p>\n

Do you feel Grinderman has more of a personality of its own now? <\/strong><\/p>\n

CAVE: It\u2019s getting closer to the sort of music that we actually want to make, that we can put on and go, \u201cThis is kind of cool.\u201d I\u2019m listening to this record with almost an objective point of view, because I\u2019m just one member in the whole thing. And I don\u2019t do that with my other records. I\u2019m too implicated in my own records. Why would I want to listen to it? There\u2019s so much other music out there. I don\u2019t listen to music while I work. When it comes to actually listening to a piece of music, I sit down and put on a record and listen to it properly. I want to be taken away from myself when I listen to a record, not confronted by myself.<\/p>\n

How did you approach the songwriting?<\/strong><\/p>\n

CAVE: We went into the studio cold for five days with nothing. We started jamming and did these very long days. We just played constantly and taped it all. Later we\u2019d go through it and pick out the bits that sounded interesting or suggested something. Then we took those away and I worked on them.<\/p>\n

Is there a theme in the songs?<\/strong><\/p>\n

CAVE: Sex, death.<\/p>\n

SCLAVUNOS: Beasts, monsters.<\/p>\n

CAVE: Violence, love. These are the things that I tend to be interested in, and continue to be. And I make no apology for it.<\/p>\n

Is Grinderman a democracy?<\/strong><\/p>\n

CAVE: It\u2019s not really a democracy in the sense that everyone has to vote on every aspect of what goes on. But for me it\u2019s more that they have to delegate stuff within four people. For example, mastering\u2014I hate all that. Jim loves it. He loves to listen to a record over and over again. So it\u2019s a great opportunity to say, \u201cYou deal with that, and I\u2019ll do the cover.\u201d<\/p>\n

This is a very hard-rocking record coming from a man in his 50s.<\/strong><\/p>\n

CAVE: I don\u2019t see what harder has to do with youth. I think it has to do with anger, more than anything. And as a 52-year-old I have way more reason to be angry than I did when I was 18. Now I\u2019m really angry.<\/p>\n

What are you angry about?<\/strong><\/p>\n

CAVE: Everything!<\/p>\n

SCLAVUNOS: You name it.<\/p>\n

CAVE: Just looking in the mirror, or reading the newspaper.<\/p>\n

SCLAVUNOS: But I suppose you channel the anger differently when you\u2019re older. I\u2019m sure there are plenty of angry young men. But they take a lot of that rage out on themselves. When you\u2019re older, you get used to projecting it and sublimating it better.<\/p>\n

How different is Grinderman from the Bad Seeds?<\/strong><\/p>\n

CAVE: We\u2019ve always done different things. Even the Bad Seeds\u2019 records are completely different. It\u2019s always been about doing different things, and they all inform each other. The big question, always, is what are we going to do next?<\/p>\n

\u2013Jeff Tamarkin<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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